Taxcut 2007 - Filing Limit

Mr. Freeze · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

Taxcut 2007 allows 5 Federal returns to be filed. I'd like to file
more than 5. I purchased a second copy of the Taxcut 2007 software,
uninstalled the program that I used to file my first 5 returns, then
installed the second copy, but it will not allow me to file any more
returns - somehow it does not differentiate that it is a new
installation or something.

Does anyone know how I can resolve this?

Thanks in advance.

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Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"Mr. Freeze" wrote
> Taxcut 2007 allows 5 Federal returns to be filed. I'd like to file
> more than 5. I purchased a second copy of the Taxcut 2007 software,
> uninstalled the program that I used to file my first 5 returns, then
> installed the second copy, but it will not allow me to file any more
> returns - somehow it does not differentiate that it is a new
> installation or something.
>
> Does anyone know how I can resolve this?

It's reading the data from the 5 returns on your disk.

Tax Cut intended for the program to be used by ONE person to file their
personal return and that of their immediate family. They estimated that
they should offer 5 returns - mom & dad filing MFS, and the three rugrats -
5.....mom & dad filing MFS, two kids and a grandma on both sides - 5.

I would think they have valid concerns about someone preparing 10 individual
returns maybe preparing for a fee. That's most likely different software at
a higher price.

And dontchaknow you can't call tech support.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

Mr. Freeze · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

On Feb 18, 3:07 pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
wrote:
> "Mr. Freeze" wrote
>
> > Taxcut 2007 allows 5 Federal returns to be filed. I'd like to file
> > more than 5. I purchased a second copy of the Taxcut 2007 software,
> > uninstalled the program that I used to file my first 5 returns, then
> > installed the second copy, but it will not allow me to file any more
> > returns - somehow it does not differentiate that it is a new
> > installation or something.
>
> > Does anyone know how I can resolve this?
>
> It's reading the data from the 5 returns on your disk.
>
> Tax Cut intended for the program to be used by ONE person to file their
> personal return and that of their immediate family. They estimated that
> they should offer 5 returns - mom & dad filing MFS, and the three rugrats -
> 5.....mom & dad filing MFS, two kids and a grandma on both sides - 5.
>
> I would think they have valid concerns about someone preparing 10 individual
> returns maybe preparing for a fee. That's most likely different software at
> a higher price.
>
> And dontchaknow you can't call tech support.
>
> --
> Paul A. Thomas, CPA
> Athens, Georgia

I tried un-installing the application, removing the data files,
deleting the folders, even tracking and deleting the registry keys of
the first installation, then installing my 2nd copy and it still
blocks me! I think I may have to install my 2nd copy on a different
machine to work around this issue, but it would be nice to be able to
use my own computer. I don't like the idea of my personal data being
stored and transmitted from a friend's machine.

Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"Mr. Freeze" wrote
> I tried un-installing the application, removing the
> data files, deleting the folders, even tracking and
> deleting the registry keys of the first installation,
> then installing my 2nd copy and it still blocks me!

Smart folks the programmers are.

> I think I may have to install my 2nd copy on a different
> machine to work around this issue, but it would be nice
> to be able to use my own computer. I don't like the
> idea of my personal data being stored and transmitted
> from a friend's machine.

You don't need 10 returns with "your" data on them. One should suffice.

Maybe next year be sure you get a program that does the 10+ returns you need
to do.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

Mr. Freeze · Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

On Feb 19, 7:48 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
wrote:
> "Mr. Freeze" wrote
>
> > I tried un-installing the application, removing the
> > data files, deleting the folders, even tracking and
> > deleting the registry keys of the first installation,
> > then installing my 2nd copy and it still blocks me!
>
> Smart folks the programmers are.
>
> > I think I may have to install my 2nd copy on a different
> > machine to work around this issue, but it would be nice
> > to be able to use my own computer. I don't like the
> > idea of my personal data being stored and transmitted
> > from a friend's machine.
>
> You don't need 10 returns with "your" data on them. One should suffice.
>
> Maybe next year be sure you get a program that does the 10+ returns you need
> to do.
>
> --
> Paul A. Thomas, CPA
> Athens, Georgia

Can you recommend any such program that will do over 5 returns?

Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"Mr. Freeze" wrote
> Can you recommend any such program that will do over 5 returns?

Just about any of the professional programs offer an unlimited number of
returns prepared.

Some also offer a "pay-per-return" option so that you don't have to fork
over a grand or more to get your ten returns done.

I wouldn't be surprised if TaxCut didn't have a professional version.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

ChrisZ · Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 10

On Feb 19, 11:52 am, "Mr. Freeze" wrote:
> On Feb 19, 7:48 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Mr. Freeze" wrote
>
> > > I tried un-installing the application, removing the
> > > data files, deleting the folders, even tracking and
> > > deleting the registry keys of the first installation,
> > > then installing my 2nd copy and it still blocks me!
>
> > Smart folks the programmers are.
>
> > > I think I may have to install my 2nd copy on a different
> > > machine to work around this issue, but it would be nice
> > > to be able to use my own computer. I don't like the
> > > idea of my personal data being stored and transmitted
> > > from a friend's machine.
>
> > You don't need 10 returns with "your" data on them. One should
suffice.
>
> > Maybe next year be sure you get a program that does the 10+ returns
you need
> > to do.
>
> > --
> > Paul A. Thomas, CPA
> > Athens, Georgia
>
> Can you recommend any such program that will do over 5 returns?

Taxact (www.taxact.com) use to handle unlimited returns but you had to pay
$8 each efiling.

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reverbtank · Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Hi- I’m a product manager H&R block, I work on the TaxCut products….the
5-e-file limit is mandated by the IRS, who limit 5-e-filed returns per
computer. As others have stated, installing a second copy of TaxCut on a
different machine will allow for 5 more, etc.

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Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"reverbtank" wrote
> Hi- I’m a product manager H&R block, I work
> on the TaxCut products….the 5-e-file limit is
> mandated by the IRS,

It is not.

Ernie Klein · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 176

In article ,
"Paul Thomas, CPA" wrote:

> "reverbtank" wrote
> > Hi- I’m a product manager H&R block, I work
> > on the TaxCut products….the 5-e-file limit is
> > mandated by the IRS,
>
>
>
> It is not.

From the IRS web site:

"You can transmit a maximum of five returns using tax preparation
software, so you can prepare returns for family and friends as well."

http://www.irs.gov/efile/article/0,,id=98294,00.html

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-Ernie-

Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"Ernie Klein" wrote

> From the IRS web site:
>
> "You can transmit a maximum of five returns using tax preparation
> software, so you can prepare returns for family and friends as well."

What allows me to file hundreds of returns from the same machine.

Ernie Klein · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 176

In article ,
"Paul Thomas, CPA" wrote:

> "Ernie Klein" wrote
>
> > From the IRS web site:
> >
> > "You can transmit a maximum of five returns using tax preparation
> > software, so you can prepare returns for family and friends as well."
>
> What allows me to file hundreds of returns from the same machine.

Using personal software like TaxCut or TurboTax, or professional
software? The IRS FAC I quoted was for individual tax software and not
for professional software.

But read it for yourself, I posted the link to the IRS information.

Also look at PUB 1345 (Handbook for Authorized IRS e-file Providers of
Individual Income Tax Returns) under "Transmission Requirements" in
Chapter 4:

"When participating in Online Filing, the Transmitter must:"

"7. Ensure that it does not transmit or accept for transmission more
than five electronic returns originating from one software package or
from one e-mail address;"

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-Ernie-

Don Priebe · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 574

> What allows me to file hundreds of returns from the same machine?

The fact that you are an ERO and have your own EFIN number.
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Don EA in Upstate NY

Paul Thomas, CPA · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 3094

"Ernie Klein" wrote
> In article ,
> "Paul Thomas, CPA" wrote:
>
>> "Ernie Klein" wrote
>>
>> > From the IRS web site:
>> >
>> > "You can transmit a maximum of five returns using tax preparation
>> > software, so you can prepare returns for family and friends as well."
>>
>> What allows me to file hundreds of returns from the same machine.
>
> Using personal software like TaxCut or TurboTax, or professional
> software? The IRS FAC I quoted was for individual tax software and not
> for professional software.

Yes sir......

Then why does the software ~prohibit~ him from preparing as many returns as
he wants.......

E-filing returns is not the same as preparing them.

The software company is locking him out of _preparing_ more than 5 returns -
even when he bought more software (a second set of 5 returns should be able
to be prepared at least).

What law restricts him from preparing more than 5 returns. On a second
software license at that.

rick++ · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 328

> I tried un-installing the application, removing the data files,
> deleting the folders, even tracking and deleting the registry keys of
> the first installation, then installing my 2nd copy and it still
> blocks me!

There may be a hidden in some unexpected directory that keeps count.

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