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kenotten



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Non Profit Group Home Reply with quote

Our organization is a 501(c)(3) religious charity that provides drug
treatment counseling, job training and other services for recovering
addicts, ex-cons and the homeless. We are interested in acquiring an
older hotel/motel to use as transitional housing and a treatment
center.

Several properties in our town (Houston, Texas) have been listed for
sale for years now, have been vacant for a lengthy amount of time and
are in substantial disrepair, have significant code violations, or are
in jeopardy of being declared uninhabitable.

We are would like to propose something like the following to the
owners:

1. We lease the building for some nominal amount per year for some
minimum length;
2. We underwrite the cost of repairs, maintenance and code
compliance;
3. We maintain and secure the property;

Of course, that is a simplified and abbreviated list, but we believe
the benefits to the property owner are several:

Tax benefits. Wouldn't there be some benefit to the owner if the
occupants were a non-profit in terms of property tax? Could the owner
write off the fair market value of the lease?

Security. The property is often vandalized. Our residents would
provide security, but also would be a natural inhibitor due to
residency.

Maintenance. The property's is in continual and progressive
disrepair. An active tenant would keep the property maintained and
serviceable.

Satisfaction. The civic and moral satisfaction of providing a
resource for the community's disenfranchised and outcast.



How can we make an offer to the owners of these properties that would
be win-win. We understand that we may not be long-long-term tenants,
but what does a deal that works for an owner of this type of property
look like?

Thanks,

Ken

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Paul Thomas, CPA



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Non Profit Group Home Reply with quote

wrote
> Our organization is a 501(c)(3) religious charity that provides drug
> treatment counseling, job training and other services for recovering
> addicts, ex-cons and the homeless. We are interested in acquiring an
> older hotel/motel to use as transitional housing and a treatment
> center.
>
> Several properties in our town (Houston, Texas) have been listed for
> sale for years now, have been vacant for a lengthy amount of time and
> are in substantial disrepair, have significant code violations, or are
> in jeopardy of being declared uninhabitable.
>
> We are would like to propose something like the following to the
> owners:
>
> 1. We lease the building for some nominal amount per year for some
> minimum length;
> 2. We underwrite the cost of repairs, maintenance and code
> compliance;
> 3. We maintain and secure the property;
>
> Of course, that is a simplified and abbreviated list, but we believe
> the benefits to the property owner are several:
>
> Tax benefits. Wouldn't there be some benefit to the owner if the
> occupants were a non-profit in terms of property tax?


Check with your county, but generally non-profit status isn't an excuse to
reduce or eliminate property tax.

I would like to mention though, that it's possible that the improvements you
make may increase the property values in the eyes of the tax assessor, and
cost the owner more in taxes than he currently pays.

You could also cause his liability and other insurance to go up.




> Could the owner write off the fair market value of the lease?


Absolutely not.

To the extent that he's not reporting the "fair market value ~income~", he's
getting the tax benefit.

He doesn't then, also take another deduction for the money he didn't get.




> Security. The property is often vandalized. Our residents would
> provide security, but also would be a natural inhibitor due to
> residency.
>
> Maintenance. The property's is in continual and progressive
> disrepair. An active tenant would keep the property maintained and
> serviceable.
>
> Satisfaction. The civic and moral satisfaction of providing a
> resource for the community's disenfranchised and outcast.



Not tax questions.




> How can we make an offer to the owners of these properties that would
> be win-win. We understand that we may not be long-long-term tenants,
> but what does a deal that works for an owner of this type of property
> look like?




They get some nominal amount of rental income, which may help off-set their
actual expenses.
They get some community goodwill.....maybe......see below as well
They get the residual improvements made to the property - if any - and if it
matters.


On the down side, your inhabiting the property may cause potential
purchasers (if the property is on the blocks for sale) to be skiddish,
wondering how bad it would look to kick you out if/when they buy the
property.

There could be community bad-will, if the neighbors (residential or
commercial) see you as a problem come to town.




So you not only have to pitch a sale to the property owner, but to the
community as well.





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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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